Question by whirlingmerc: Do heart transplants and DNA research somehow inherently rest on darwinian evolution?
In what way does medicine rest on macro evolution, a heart tranplant, for example? specifically as compared to intelligent design or creationary thought. Would a doctor that believes in creation be a worse doctor than one who was a social or other type of darwinist?
In what way does the discovery of DNA rest on macro evolution as opposed to intelligent design or creationary thought
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Message: Seriously dude. You are stupid. You have changed your statements three times and ignored facts every single time they were presented. People like you are why this world is how it is. If you can’t understand heart transplants are based off DNA which is based off evolution then I can’t help you.
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If I was you, I’d take down that email. It shows that you very likely started the whole chain, and undoubtedly are as stupid as he claims. Just a word to the wise.
Oh, and on evolution and medicine:
Have you ever had a vaccine? Yeah, that’s evolution in medicine.
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Question by Sports F: Christians, how do you deal with the Bible verse “Only a fool says in his heart there is no God”?
What I mean is, alot of atheists are turned off by that verse. I know that this is true statement though. It’s nothing personal against atheists in anyway, but it’s just stating a fact. Sometimes the truth hurts. Anyway, how would you diplomatically get around this verse when confronted with it by an atheist?
How would you explain this?
Thank you for your answers.
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Suggestion by Printninja NOBODY died for me 
Yeah, once upon a time, dumb humans thought that emotions emanated from the heart, and that gods were real.
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Question by circumference: How can I change my heart‘s desire-reasoning with my heart has failed-I prefer a partner type I can’t obtain
My heart is only attracted to large, curvy women, even though most of the women in my environment are such. This deep attraction to a type of woman that I have failed to meet in my day to day life (internet services have failed to help me in my area) causes me extreme angst. Mentally/rationally I have no problem dating thin or average appearance women, but my heart is not in it. I prefer the curvy voluptuous type with ample curves, and have done so since I was a pre-teen. Does the fact that my preference has been counterproductive to inner peace for decades mean that I have a character/psychological flaw – and my main question is how can I change what my heart prefers – reasoning has failed to change my heart. Any ideas appreciated.
My heart is only attracted to large, curvy women, even though most of the women in my environment are such. This deep attraction to a type of woman that I have failed to meet in my day to day life (internet services have failed to help me in my area) causes me extreme angst. Mentally/rationally I have no problem dating thin or average appearance women – I have dated many, I liked their personalities very much but I was not attracted to them physically – my heart was not in it. I prefer the curvy voluptuous type with ample curves, and have done so since I was a pre-teen. Does the fact that my preference has been counterproductive to inner peace for decades mean that I have a character/psychological flaw – and my main question is how can I change what my heart prefers – reasoning has failed to change my heart. Any ideas appreciated.
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If your heart tells you to be attracted to large, curvy women, then who are you to argue with your heart. I don’t care what your mind tells you, you will never be happy with a thin woman. Maybe your mother or someone close is a large woman. My husand’s mother was tall and weighed about 225. He married me and I am short and overweight,but he loves me for who I am. We have been married 37 years and are happier and more in love than ever. There are so many overweight peopel in the US right now, you should have no trouble finding your dreamgirl. Good Luck..
I think that there are a lot of factors to consider. First of all, it is important to realise that looks are *not* everything. You should be looking at the inside, not the outside. If you talk to people, you may find yourself surprised at at what you find in someone who doesn’t happen to be well-endowed in the chest or rear.
Second of all, please remember the difference between curvy and voluptuous women and very obese women. If you are attracted to very obese women, you will only be promoting an unhealthy lifestyle for the woman involved, so this is something that you might want to consider.
Third, I don’t think there is anything wrong with being attracted to curvy women. The simple fact is, you want a woman, not a woman who looks like a girl. Large breasts, hips, and rears are characteristics that many men are attracted to. Just becuase the media promotes the idea that grown women are supposed to be underweight or ashamed of their curves, there is nothing to say that you need to fall into that mindset as well.
I am not understanding something. If “My heart is only attracted to large, curvy women, even though most of the women in my environment are such. This deep attraction to a type of woman that I have failed to meet in my day to day life (internet services have failed to help me in my area) causes me extreme angst. ”
What is the problem if most of the women in your environment meet the physical specification that “your heart desires.” It sounds though you are in a target rich environment and therfore should not have angst.
Why change it? Your preference is your preference and you have tested your character for psychological flaw by dating outsides the physical parameters specified and confused yourself into believing that you must change your heart. That is not sound.
If it is really your heart then, Let your heart be your heart. You really do not have any control that little piece of flesh in your chest when it comes to Love or the iIlusion of Love.
If you are using only your attraction to large,curvy women as your only criterion, and not considering other internal things rooted in character, then you should be angry with yourself for missing out on the important part.
Explain ,”preference has been counterproductive to inner peace for decades mean that I have a character/psychological flaw.” How??
Your preferences are yours, like what you like, the way you like it . The odds are in your favor to get the contents with the package of your choosing.
Listen, you are physically attracted to a certain type and this is very normal. What is not normal is not looking inside the packaging to the inner person, their heart and soul. If you find someone who posseses a beautiful soul, then the physical attraction will follow. Trust me this is very true.
I am mostly attracted physically, at first sight, to tall, dark, broad shouldered, flat stomics, and a dimple in the cheek. Does this mean I would never fall in love with a man who did not posses those outer attractions? Absolutely not. In fact, first husband (who passed away eleven years ago) was an inch shorter than I, weighed exactly the same as I did (at the beginning that is, I gained weight having his children) and it was his soul peaking out through his eyes which first attracted me to him. At first look he was not my “type”. I still would occassionally see a man who possesed my “type” of looks and I would “peek” at him and admire him. But I never, not once, ever cheated. Nor was I not attracted physically to me husband. I was very attracted to him.
Physical attraction is made up of two aspects. First is the “type” of physical body most disired. Then is the chemical attraction factor, We all have pheromones which are attracted to certain other pheromones of the opposite sex. (If we are attracted to the opposite sex) These instant physical attractons are very normal and will occur without any efforts on our part and even with out trying to not be attracted. It is what we do with that attraction which is important. Many wrongly assume that if they are attracted physically to a person it means they are not “in love” with their partner any longer. They ruin a wonderful union on a physical attraction which will burn itself out in a short amount of time 95% of the time. If you do not act on that attraction it will go away in its own time. Acting on these attractions will keep an individual from ever sustaining a long term committed relationship. This is due to an inability to understand it is normal to have these attractions and you can just stay away from that person and allow the attracton to disapait. I see so many who do not understand the dynamics of a committed relationship or how attractions work. It is so sad to see these very unhappy individuals. Then there are those who just cheat on their spouses when faced with an attraction. This ruins relationships every single day. With the divorce rate at over 50% is it any wonder how many do not know how to be married or how to avoid acting on impulses? Just because a person is attracted physically to another does not mean you have to sleep with them.
I know have a finace who is two and one quarter inches shorter than I and is 20 pounds lighter. I am VERY attracted to him physically, but the first attraction was his soul. This man is beautiful in my eyes from the stand point of his heart and soul, and handsome from a stand point of how his inner attractiveness has created an outer attractiveness. Attraction can and does grow over time if a person allows it to. If I had turned from this wonderful man just due to the fact he did not posses my “type” of physical attraction in a man, would have denied me the love of this man who I so dearly love too. I would not know have such a wonerful relationship and a partner for the rest of our lives.
So, you are limiting yourself by putting such empathis on the outer package. Give yourself time to see the inner beauty of a person and the physical attraction will follow.
Listen, we all lose our looks eventually. We need to have found a partner who has inner beauty if it is to be a sustainable relationship into our old age. I think you need to consider that you are not allowing yourself to see the inner souls of these individuals as you are stuck on the fact they do not possess that ideal physical “type” you are instantly attracted to.
I think it would be easy for you to find a shapely, curvey woman online. There are thousands if not millions of normal figuared woman and somewhat obese woman and even obese women. You need to take your time in finding one of those if you just can not bring yourself to date woman who are slim or skinny. I agree that very skinny or very slender woman are not that attractive, nor are they really that healthy. But, that is the “ideal” woman are faced with being in society today. At least in our society in the Western cultures.
Look for the inner beauty first though and take the time needed to see that inner beauty. You should not just jump into a relationship anyway just on how a woman “looks”. That is shallow and immature behavior. You are cheating both yourself and the woman involved. But, if you just simply can not find it in you to do this then by alll means stay shallow and find a curvy woman who meets your standards and then hope you will find inner beauty afterwards. So many find themselves with individuals they do not even life after they discover exactly how unattractive the person is on the inside.
Best of luck in working through this issue and finding a wonderful partner for life.
My taste for women is a bit on the voluptuous side too.
I have my theories about this but It’s hard not to notice your anxiety about this issue.
I don’t think it’s a character flaw. Our taste for women might be shaped / affected by many things including media.
Curvy bodies appeal to us men, but like taste for food, the sweeter or saltier the food the tastier it can get. So we might have lost our appreciation for subtlety on this issue and only voluptuous women appeal to us and are satisfactory enough for our animal urge / hunger.
Also large women may subconsciously represent warmth protectivity reproductivity (big breasts) and a rather strong stance instead of fairy like hoovering girls
Anyway my thoughts are generally based on sexual appearance on this one.
When it comes to your doubts about yourself, I believe there’s nothing wrong with you and you can stick with your taste for such women.
About meeting one such woman, it’s just luck / faith, keep looking and I’m sure one or even many will come up your way.
Good luck
You sound like a chauvanistic pig! You never once mentioned that you were concerned with the value of a woman’s “inside” qualities. As long as you are totally hung up on looks and appearance (despite the fact that your prefered appearance is counter to what is now culturally desired) you will always fail to be successful in relationships.
In simple words, grow up!
i think you should try dating women that are thin or average woman and TRY to change your heart
so you like fat chicks?
I love you, can I have your children
I wouldn’t try to get around it, or any other verse either.
First of all, I agree wholeheartedly with shoeahshoe. Well said.
Secondly, in the event that you are asked to explain it, go look up Psalm 14:1. The footnote in my Bible says that the word “fool” is translated in Psalms from a Hebrew word that means morally deficient. Okay, so take that and say “The immoral one says in his heart, there is no God.” Makes more sense and seems a little less harsh that way. If you have no morals, it’s easy to deny God’s existence. It doesn’t say that atheists are immoral, but that the immoral are atheist.
Btw, the “fool” in Psalm and the “fool” in the Matthew verse cited by someone else carry different meanings. The verse in Matthew refers to murder and extreme anger.
When in doubt, review the context and research the original language. It’s amazing what the naked eye might think is there that sometimes isn’t (especially when you’re talking to someone who has set out to prove you wrong).
Hope that helps!
with another statement
ONLY A FOOL WOULD BELIEVE THAT THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD AND NOT THE WORD OF MAN WRITTEN DOWN BY MAN
The verse suggests that there actually WERE atheists around in Judah 3,200 years ago. I’ve always been boggled by that thought. It’s easy being an atheist these days – with all the scientific explanations around now for how the earth and its creatures formed, to be otherwise takes real courage. But back then, when they had absolutely zero scientific knowledge, to say “There is no God” took some courage in my view.
That’s a tricky one because Matthew 5:22 say that if you call anyone a fool then you are condemned to hell (the lake of fire).
Imagine it. A Christian repeats Psalm 14:1 thinking he’s doing the right thing and whammo – straight to hell he goes.
Take the universe for example. Its size can not accurately be measured. It runs like clock work. Look at the way humans breath oxygen and its effect on our lives. Water is another. We need water to survive. Look at the way we are animated. Look at your eyes. there better then any camera and see in color and transmit information to the brain. We bear children which is a miracle. We are higher then the animals. We can plan, love hate laugh, cry, run, jump, and the list goes on and on. This is a sign of a higher intelligence. We have an articulate mind that builds our world. This can not be shoved aside. If you do not believe these things were created by a higher being with almighty power then your mind is foolish to say there is no god. If man made up the idea of God where did he get that idea?
How do we “deal with it”? It is what it is–self-explanatory. I don’t beta people over the head with it, but it is true.
Diplomacy flies out the window.
I call it like I see it. God’s Word is the authority, it is not meant to encourage “feelings”. It is about right and wrong. For those who can’t accept that, they must somehow know they are in the “wrong”.
As far as the atheist is concerned………….well it ain’t me who refuses to believe in God!!!
2 Cor 14:37-38 If a man think himself to a prophst or spiritual let him acknowledge tha the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
First of all I wouldn’t feel it necessary to share this verse with a non Christian. I believe there are times or maybe too many times when an over zealous Christian shares pieces from scripture that do more harm than good. These may well be meant for mature Christians as we learn more about our personal walk than as evangelistic tools.
Second of all. If we reverse the working we consider this to mean that we are made superior by the knowledge of the existence of God.
God Bless
That verse seems pretty self explanatory to me. You either believe it or you don’t. Not sure there’s anything to “diplomatically get around”.
You don’t get around it. Either God’s word stands or it doesn’t.
Matthew 5:22
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5:22
I guess if you are right I’ll be seeing you in Hell.
Fools deserved to burn.
“Hit dog yelps the loudest”
He obviously couldn’t help you. Stupid is hard to cure.
While it’s certainly possible to practise medicine without understanding all the theoretical basis of what you are doing, you will eventually run into problems in medical research if you can’t get your head around the unifying theory of modern biology.
Sure, you can do some things in biology without understanding the basics, but you’ll have trouble contributing anything new. And ID and Creationism have not contributed to anything new.
You don’t need to understand evolution to give a flu shot, or prescribe antibiotics for TB or antiretrovirals for HIV – you can just follow instructions developed by someone else. But you do need to understand evolution if you want to develop vaccines for rapidly mutating viruses or research the best combinations of drugs for bugs like TB or HIV.
You’ll probably be an okay surgeon, but a lousy geneticist or microbiologist.
Oh, and “Social darwinism” has nothing to do with evolutionary biology. It’s a set of ideas dating back to 18th century clergyman Thomas Malthus.
DNA is post-Darwinian. The extrapolation of classical genetics in the pea, chromosomal genetics in the fruit fly, and genetic transformation in pneumococcal bacteria to humans relies on a unified biology. Creation and Intelligent Design do do have any useful contribution since they express the concept that the way things are is the way things are.
Evolution is essential in understanding tissue rejection in heart transplant. The non-random distribution of major histocompatibility alleles cannot be explained by descent from eight individuals 4,500 years ago. Sure, the surgeon doing the procedure doesn’t need to know this, but the surgeon who is trying to line up the donors does need to know this.
If that is true, someone should tell Ben Carson he doesn’t know how to do proper neurosurgery.